Comments on: Don’t write dialogue http://www.ben-kay.com/2010/07/dont-write-dialogue/ "Endearingly belligerent" – another blogger Mon, 06 Feb 2012 11:32:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: boot1947 http://www.ben-kay.com/2010/07/dont-write-dialogue/#comment-700 boot1947 Mon, 02 Aug 2010 17:49:53 +0000 http://www.ben-kay.com/?p=854#comment-700 Isn't it 'wriggle room'? More energetic, somehow. Isn’t it ‘wriggle room’? More energetic, somehow.

]]> By: ben http://www.ben-kay.com/2010/07/dont-write-dialogue/#comment-625 ben Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:50:11 +0000 http://www.ben-kay.com/?p=854#comment-625 I'm sorry to hear that she had a personal tragedy, but unless it happened before 2003 it didn't affect the ad I shot with her. Maybe she learned to shoot beyond 4:30 on my ad and applied her new attitude to yours. I’m sorry to hear that she had a personal tragedy, but unless it happened before 2003 it didn’t affect the ad I shot with her.

Maybe she learned to shoot beyond 4:30 on my ad and applied her new attitude to yours.

]]> By: david http://www.ben-kay.com/2010/07/dont-write-dialogue/#comment-621 david Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:49:15 +0000 http://www.ben-kay.com/?p=854#comment-621 I shot with Jackie Oudney and she was the polar opposite. We finally wrapped at 2.30am. The owners of the location were in tears, the crew were spitting blood...but she didn't give up until it was properly done. Also, she's suffered a particularly awful personal tragedy not too long ago. That might have had something to do with your experience, so maybe go easy. I shot with Jackie Oudney and she was the polar opposite. We finally wrapped at 2.30am. The owners of the location were in tears, the crew were spitting blood…but she didn’t give up until it was properly done.

Also, she’s suffered a particularly awful personal tragedy not too long ago. That might have had something to do with your experience, so maybe go easy.

]]> By: simon http://www.ben-kay.com/2010/07/dont-write-dialogue/#comment-616 simon Fri, 30 Jul 2010 08:39:16 +0000 http://www.ben-kay.com/?p=854#comment-616 I think you're probably being provocative for the sake of a good post, and I'm all for that. But none-the-less I shall rise to the bait. I can not disagree with this post more. In fact I'm going to rant about it on my blog to get it out of my system Keep up the good work I think you’re probably being provocative for the sake of a good post, and I’m all for that. But none-the-less I shall rise to the bait. I can not disagree with this post more. In fact I’m going to rant about it on my blog to get it out of my system

Keep up the good work

]]> By: The Voice Of Reason http://www.ben-kay.com/2010/07/dont-write-dialogue/#comment-610 The Voice Of Reason Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:23:43 +0000 http://www.ben-kay.com/?p=854#comment-610 Ben, I'd like to second the comment about 'Jackie Oudney'...possibly one of the worst directors I have had the mispleasure of working with. Ben, I’d like to second the comment about ‘Jackie Oudney’…possibly one of the worst directors I have had the mispleasure of working with.

]]> By: Henry Horatio Hobson http://www.ben-kay.com/2010/07/dont-write-dialogue/#comment-607 Henry Horatio Hobson Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:03:07 +0000 http://www.ben-kay.com/?p=854#comment-607 “There’s an awful lot of shit out there and I bet most of it was wrote by writers.” That's because so called writers are full of it. “There’s an awful lot of shit out there and I bet most of it was wrote by writers.”
That’s because so called writers are full of it.

]]> By: Naughty Creative http://www.ben-kay.com/2010/07/dont-write-dialogue/#comment-605 Naughty Creative Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:54:46 +0000 http://www.ben-kay.com/?p=854#comment-605 KMC: "There‚Äôs an awful lot of shit out there and I bet most of it was wrote by writers." I rest my case. KMC: “There‚Äôs an awful lot of shit out there and I bet most of it was wrote by writers.”

I rest my case.

]]> By: ben http://www.ben-kay.com/2010/07/dont-write-dialogue/#comment-604 ben Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:52:40 +0000 http://www.ben-kay.com/?p=854#comment-604 I agree entirely, but I like to think that some of Old Spice's dialogue might have cropped up along the way (any intervention from Tom Kuntz, say?). And still have yet to meet anyone who has made it through the entirety of Johnnie Walker. It's like a long copy ad that no one has ever read. And copyless wonders? Balls, Gorilla, Noitulove, Impossible Dream, Cog, Surfer, Drugstore (any Levis ad) etc etc etc. I agree entirely, but I like to think that some of Old Spice’s dialogue might have cropped up along the way (any intervention from Tom Kuntz, say?).

And still have yet to meet anyone who has made it through the entirety of Johnnie Walker. It’s like a long copy ad that no one has ever read.

And copyless wonders? Balls, Gorilla, Noitulove, Impossible Dream, Cog, Surfer, Drugstore (any Levis ad) etc etc etc.

]]> By: Longtimelistener http://www.ben-kay.com/2010/07/dont-write-dialogue/#comment-603 Longtimelistener Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:39:51 +0000 http://www.ben-kay.com/?p=854#comment-603 Hmmm. Sitting here on top of Lady Liberty's burning torch, I can't help but feel that this is what's separating the US and the UK in terms of TV. The US embraces dialogue. The UK doesn't. Look at the Grand Prix that stormed the Croisette this year. Old Spice. Nice visuals sure, but dialogue driven. Skittles Touch. The idea is good. The dialogue takes it up to another level. Pretty sure they nailed the dialogue before the shoot. The UK exception that proves the rule? BBH London's Johnnie Walker spot. An avalanche of copy. Think it's a coincidence that it's picked up around the world this year? Don't get me wrong Ben, I totally agree that locking into dialogue before the shoot can cause an Austrian cellar full of trouble. And that's the main point of your post. But, the important thing to state is that people shouldn't ignore dialogue completely. Writing great dialogue can get you an Aladdin's cave full of cheap nasty awards. It's why I skipped over the pond to the land of big gulps and corn dogs. That and the chance to stalk Betty White. Hmmm.

Sitting here on top of Lady Liberty’s burning torch, I can’t help but feel that this is what’s separating the US and the UK in terms of TV.

The US embraces dialogue. The UK doesn’t.

Look at the Grand Prix that stormed the Croisette this year. Old Spice. Nice visuals sure, but dialogue driven. Skittles Touch. The idea is good. The dialogue takes it up to another level.

Pretty sure they nailed the dialogue before the shoot.

The UK exception that proves the rule? BBH London’s Johnnie Walker spot. An avalanche of copy. Think it’s a coincidence that it’s picked up around the world this year?

Don’t get me wrong Ben, I totally agree that locking into dialogue before the shoot can cause an Austrian cellar full of trouble. And that’s the main point of your post.

But, the important thing to state is that people shouldn’t ignore dialogue completely. Writing great dialogue can get you an Aladdin’s cave full of cheap nasty awards.

It’s why I skipped over the pond to the land of big gulps and corn dogs. That and the chance to stalk Betty White.

]]> By: Tittyface (Prof.) http://www.ben-kay.com/2010/07/dont-write-dialogue/#comment-602 Tittyface (Prof.) Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:05:21 +0000 http://www.ben-kay.com/?p=854#comment-602 Word, Brake. Word, Brake.

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